Help: Is this playable? Simplifying rhythms?

Rodents210 · April 5th, 2007, 07:41 pm

I wanted to know if this song is playable, since I don't know the ranges of many of the instruments and I may have transcribed an impossible arrangement.

It's a transcription and not a composition but I thought it seemed to fit here because I've finished transposing it so it isn't a "sheet music request" per se. I am most worried about Cello, Flute, Violin, and Trombone, but I may have missed something so if you could look over all the instruments, that would be great. Also, anything I have in there is straight from the MIDI with a few edits, so if you could check and see if anything can be simplified as well (as said in the title), please don't hesitate to say so. PLEASE DO NOT STEAL MY TRANSCRIPTION!

clarinetist · April 5th, 2007, 08:26 pm

First of all: you have got to learn how to edit stuff from a MIDI file, and don't just assume what you see when opening the MIDI file is how you do it. Like, there's some weird rhythms noted here and there. Learn how to simplify it, and I'll comment.

EDIT: And, it's playable.

Rodents210 · April 5th, 2007, 08:36 pm

Well, I'm not very experienced in this sort of thing since my only musical experience is Band and Choir. My school doesn't offer a Music Theory class. The only rhythms I know how to simplify is noting a quarter-note-and-eighth-note triplet into 2 eighth notes marked as a jazz swing.

clarinetist · April 5th, 2007, 08:40 pm

^I have the same experience with you (I have only taken those kinds of classes). Basically, it's just pure logic and math at times. For example, do you see the woodblock part at meas. 3 (where the 3/4 time signature starts)? Note the dotted-eighth notes with the 12 on the bottom. It seems obvious that they are the same length, and they cover one beat. Now since they both cover the same length, and there's only 2 in one beat, you can therefore, conclude that they are eighth notes. See what else you can do

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Rodents210 · April 5th, 2007, 09:16 pm

Measure 2, Timpani: just a standard 3-eighth triplet, right?

Measure 4, Cello: 2 double-dot eighth notes with the 14 underneath are 8th notes?

Measure 11, Trombone: The eighth rest, 32nd rest, and the eighth note tied to a 32nd note with the 10 underneath should equal one eighth rest followed by one eighth note?

Measure 10, Drum Set: Same thing? Measure should be eighth rest, three untied eighth notes, and a quarter note?

I think this could be easy enough...

Edit: General Tambourine melody is bothering me. I don't know how to simplify it and it looks like a big mess! Measure 11 is a good example.

clarinetist · April 5th, 2007, 09:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Rodents210

Measure 2, Timpani: just a standard 3-eighth triplet, right?

Measure 4, Cello: 2 double-dot eighth notes with the 14 underneath are 8th notes?

Measure 11, Trombone: The eighth rest, 32nd rest, and the eighth note tied to a 32nd note with the 10 underneath should equal one eighth rest followed by one eighth note?

Measure 10, Drum Set: Same thing? Measure should be eighth rest, three untied eighth notes, and a quarter note?

I think this could be easy enough...

Yes, Yes, *Meas. 11- you should probably listen to the MIDI file and interpret it yourself, or you could ask me, and the same applies with the Drum Set.

Rodents210 · April 5th, 2007, 09:27 pm

Okay, the furthest I got for Tambourine is:

[Eighth Rest][64th Note][Double-Dotted 16th Rest][64th Note][Eighth Rest][Double-Dotted 16th Rest][64th Note][Dotted 16th Rest][Eighth Note]

But it still seems messy and I think a staccatoed eighth note could suffice for a percussion 64th note, correct? I'm so confuzzled.

clarinetist · April 5th, 2007, 09:29 pm

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Originally Posted by Rodents210

But it still seems messy and I think a staccatoed eighth note could suffice for a percussion 64th note, correct? I'm so confuzzled.

#1 Rule- Anything shorter than a 32nd note, put it as a Grace Note, and make the note after it slightly longer.

You may want to get used to it, it's very complex

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Rodents210 · April 5th, 2007, 09:29 pm

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Originally Posted by clarinetist

Yes, Yes, *Meas. 11- you should probably listen to the MIDI file and interpret it yourself, or you could ask me, and the same applies with the Drum Set.

Well, the playback as it is sounds completely accurate. I was just wondering if what I put for Drum Set would equal what is there.

Rodents210 · April 5th, 2007, 09:30 pm

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Originally Posted by clarinetist

#1 Rule- Anything shorter than a 32nd note, put it as a Grace Note, and make the note after it slightly longer.

You may want to get used to it, it's very complex

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As a standalone note, though? How could I put that as a grace note?

clarinetist · April 5th, 2007, 09:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Rodents210

As a standalone note, though? How could I put that as a grace note?

What program do you use?

Rodents210 · April 5th, 2007, 09:36 pm

Finale 2007b

I know how to add Grace Notes, but they usually mean "optional" and they must precede actual, non-rest notes, correct?

Rodents210 · April 5th, 2007, 09:42 pm

Graaawr! I exported Tambourine to be on its own, and despite the Midi Instrument for it sucking to the point where each note is a different percussion instrument (and apparently the ones I put in the same spot as noted when in 5-line with standard notation don't make the same noises as the default ones), I've noticed that Tambourine also has Cymbal in it, so that needs to be added to Drum Set, or I'll have to make a new staff which always sucks in Finale products...

Rodents210 · April 6th, 2007, 12:56 am

Here's the updated score. I still need a way to make the Tambourine less messy and still sound relatively the same. I'm still thinking staccatoed 8th notes and ridding myself of a few rests, but haven't gotten around to fooling with it.

Edit: Are you SURE that the Trombone part is playable? It seems a lot higher than generally accomplishable.

Murder · April 6th, 2007, 01:44 am

It's perfectly fine. Just watch out in measures 92 and 96, I've said this to someone esle too, those notes are hitting the range of a regular trombone. Those are fine, just don't go any lower. And unless your dealing with a beggining band, then the high notes should be just fine. In fact, most of the song is in the lower-medium range of the trombone. Just don't go too much higher than a high A or B flat if you're doing fast or complex rythems.

P.S. Don't double post, just edit your first one. I would've thought a member would know that. Unless you just haven't been active for a while on Ichigo's...

EDIT: I love it when people ask trombone questions!